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You are here: Vidpk.com Discussions » General Discussions » Kia humein Eid Milad un Nabi Manana...

Kia humein Eid Milad un Nabi Manana Chaye Must Watch

15 Feb 2011

please watch this videos and think about it and comments kar k bataye ap log kia sochtey hain ?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWWAofdd4DQ&feature=related
guriyaa
from Spain
joined 5 yrs ago
1
15 Feb 2011

ay piyare musalmano namaz roza zakat quran pak parho isme ALLAH b khush or hamaray or ALLAH k rasool bhi khush.achi video thi.jin logon ko deen me tamasha chahye hota he wo aise kaam kartay hen,log arkan e islami me boor ho jate hen bicharay.isliye bidaten nikaltay tak halla gulla hota rahay
aneesa
from Denmark
joined 5 yrs ago
2
15 Feb 2011

i agree with u aneesa'yeh konsa Islam hai?mein sochti hoon jo log is juloos mein nikalte hein woh namaz kab padhte hein jab k namaz to farz hai yeh sub biddat hai magar kya karein hamare log nunaish ko pasand karte hein agar aap new naatein sun lein to woh (astagfirullah) naat kum aur gaane ziyada lagein ge.
runa
from Pakistan
joined 4 yrs ago
3
15 Feb 2011

agar eid milad islam main hota to sab se pheley sahaba manatay kyonkay wo ham say bhot zaada hoozar say mohbbat kartay thay or aisa jo bhi kaam jo muhmmad s/w nay ya sahaba nay nahi kiya wo sab din main karna biddat hai Allah ham sab ko aisi biddaton say bachay muhbbat to s/w say ye hai kay ham apni zindagion main sunnaton ko zinda karain na kay biddaton ko
samsam
from Canada
joined 3 yrs ago
4
15 Feb 2011

Ye jo video may lines likhi hain in ka proof ya reference to ap logon ne dya hee nahin kya logon ko bewakoof bana chahtay hain ap log? kindly quote and proof these lines with some solid references plzz.Aur ye mairi ap logon se request hay without references kisi video pr believe na karain.
saaim00
from Pakistan
joined 3 yrs ago
5
15 Feb 2011

What ever the people are doing it is their religion.do not point out.is anyone here to point out Muharram joloos.Islam to 3 din Kay bad soot khatam karta hai. .but Pakistan life depend on jlooses.
How many of you, check your self,Muharram Kay 9and 10 ka Roza shukranay ka hai ,khushi ka hai kih Allah nay firon say hazart mosa ko bachaya..and many pakistany 9 10 ko afros ka din samajh kar koi khushi ki taqreeb us mahina nahi kartay. On the top they kept roza for hazart imam has an hussain. Lahul,what is that just shirk,jihalat,they all know roza is for Allah why they do it?bidat is a smaller sin then that.

We called our self Muslim,we dis respect womens every where,children abuse,we do not care our next door,no respect of other people property.even to govt.we have install on walk ways,our houses extend beyond our boundary line disrespecting community,,pay no taxes,do kundalini on electricity,we are nation who do what they want to do for therir own bienifit we are self centered nation,who critisice on every action except their own
aisha
from Unknown
joined 6 yrs ago
6
16 Feb 2011

@ saaim00

i didn't see this video mein ne woh bayan kiya hai jo mein ne dekha hai khud apni aankhon se.govt need to ban all juloos there is no concept of celebrating births and mourns after three days in Islam both muharram and rabiulawal juloos should be ban.
runa
from Pakistan
joined 4 yrs ago
7
16 Feb 2011

aik bat meri samj nahi ati k log shadi me gane chalate hian dannce karte hain har wo kam karte hain jo deen mein nahi hai us me koi kuch nahi bolta jab nabi ki viladat ka jhasan manate hain to sabko takleef q hoti is mein log shirk or biddat le ate hain runa ap ne kaha log julus me hote hain namz kab parte hain to mje ye jawab den k jab shadiyan hoti hain log itne masroof hote hain wo kab namz parte hain?or huzoor ki viladat hum apni khushi se manate hain
hammadali
from Pakistan
joined 3 yrs ago
8
16 Feb 2011

wese birthday clebrate use kehte hain jisme cake katta hai nabi ki viladat mein cake nahi hota or nahi hi nach gana jahan tak sahaba karam ki bat hai to ap logon ko kia pata ho sakta hai wo manate hon hum log to us waqt nahi the na
hammadali
from Pakistan
joined 3 yrs ago
9
16 Feb 2011

valentine day par ap log tabsare q nahi karte wo hamare deen mein nahi hai par log wo to clebrate karte hain non muslims k tehwara manate hain kia ye biddat nahi?kabi kisi ne valentine day k khilaf kuch nahi kaha ap sab eid milad un nabi par tabsare karte hain jab k ALLAH TALA khud apne mehboob ka milaad parta hai torat or injeel mein unki naat shareef hain TO PHR HUM UNKI VILADAT KI KHUSHI Q NA MANAEN
hammadali
from Pakistan
joined 3 yrs ago
10
16 Feb 2011

islam is a very soft and flexible religion.islam mein har chez ki gunjaish hai agar aap islam kay deira ka ander ra kar karta hai.bohat sari things jo humaira prophet saw, ka zamna mein nahi huin thi .us ki first ex.Quran hai jo prophet kay zamana mein combined nahi tha us ko Abu baker ka zamana dor mein combined hua to muslim people of at that time said why you are doing this agar prophet na nahi kia.ISlam ka mukalfin har dor meinhota hai aur is dor mein bi hai jo apni wrong thinking ko islam per toptay hai.
nanipari1
from Unknown
joined 4 yrs ago
11
16 Feb 2011

Islam mein har chez ki islam ka daira mein ra kar ijazat hai.Every muslim is the folower of 4 imams.1 ex is namaz .koi hands ko fold kar ke ada karta hai or some people realese the hand to pray namaz.Allah will acept all the namaz.every things belong to your niyat.what is right what is wrong nobodys knows only Allah knows.the people who said this is bidhat Allah will give them hadayat and also give magfirat to those people Amin.
nanipari1
from Unknown
joined 4 yrs ago
12
16 Feb 2011

han Eid milad un Nabi manana chahiay jin k liye pori duniya banaie gaie jo Allah ka mehboob hay jo sub k liye rehmat bun k aya us k anay ki khushi kion na manaien iss ko biddat kehnay walay pehly sara ilam hasal ker len pir iss ko biddat kahen hum apny bachon ki birthday or apni birthday baray shok sy manata hay tu us aqa ki wiladat ki kushi kion na manaie jiss ki waja sy hum dunia main aye jashn e wiladat zindabad AQA KI AMAD MERHABA MERHABA SALLAY ALLA
mara_dil_in
from Unknown
joined 5 yrs ago
13
16 Feb 2011

OR JO YEH KEHTAY HEN k ager milad manana hota tu sub sy pehly sahaba karam mananaty unhen pata hay k sahaba ny nahi manaya ary zara kud apny dill or damag sy b soch liya karo jub hamaray payary nabi saww byda hoie kia us wakat sahaba karam thay us wakat makay main kafir thay jin ko apni jan k lallay per gaie thay wo kushi kia khak manaty sahabi us ko kehtay hen jiss ny iman ki halat main hamaray payary nabi ki zayarat ki pir jub hamaray nabi saww madina hijrat ker k gaie tu sub nu kysi muhabat say istakbal kia daff bajaie gaie log jok dar jok akhaty hoie ap ki amad pay yeh milad nahi tu or kia hay ap saww jaloose ki surat main madina pak main dakhil hoie ap kay sat 70 log tay jo ap ka taakab kerty ap tak puhnchay thay or ap ky noor ko dykhatay hi iman ly aie
mara_dil_in
from Unknown
joined 5 yrs ago
14
16 Feb 2011

@ aisha: kase muslim ho tum log shaed wase he jase nawase Rasoll ko shahedd karne waley thy, Nabi key Nawase ko shahed kar deya gaya un ke aill per zulm keye gaye aur tum kah rahey ho khai humme khusyain mannae chahen.......!!!!!! aur Quran men kahan likha hai khai sog teen din ka hota hai????? parho ja ker surah Yousaf jis men hai hazrat Ayub apni bety ke muhabbat men kitne saal rote rahe khai ankhon ke bennaaye chale gaye aur phir bhe ALLAH ne unhe SABIR kaha hai un pe biddatate hone ka nahe kaha hai
islam dine fitrat hai aur insan ke fitrat hai khai usse takleef pohnche to woh rota hai udas hota hai
syeda
from Pakistan
joined 5 yrs ago
15
16 Feb 2011

runa,i totally agree with u.isi liay kehtay hain k bidat burai hai q k her bidat kisi sunnat ko mar deti he ya farz ki jaga le leti he,and dear aisha............u are right also k hum boht bay-amal muslim hayn bt ye bhi to sochain k ager koi bhi deen me dakhil ghalat cheez ko kabhi bura na kahay to deen ki shakal bigar jae gi..........or yahan koi bhi face to face comments paas nahi ker raha na...........its open forum for all of us,and we can disagree or agree,whatever we want.
paree
from United States
joined 4 yrs ago
16
16 Feb 2011

brother hammadali...........baat ye hay k shadiyon me naach gana gunah samjh k hi kia jata hay laikin milad pe shirkiaa naato ko gunah hi nahi samjha jata jab k wo baaz dafa shirk ki had tk le jati hayn,astaghfirullah. or ye bhi k nach ganay ko koi deen ka hissa nai smajhta jab k milaad ki bidaat ko hum ne zabardasti deen ka hissa bana lia hay......hope u clear now.................
paree
from United States
joined 4 yrs ago
17
16 Feb 2011

ap ki soch wahabi type hai isliye meelad ki ahmiyat ap ko nahi pata chalegi han akhrat me zaror pata chalegi jab BARI TALA ap se kahe ga k tum ne mere mehboob k milaad ko bidaat kaha jab kia kaho gi medam
hammadali
from Pakistan
joined 3 yrs ago
18
16 Feb 2011

or melad shareef mein MEBOOB E KHUDA ki tareef haisister itna b nahi janti kia?
hammadali
from Pakistan
joined 3 yrs ago
19
16 Feb 2011

Aisha plz pakistani hok pakistan ko bura na kahain ye sab hota hay jo ap ne likha pakistan main lekin pakistan is dunya ki back bone ha do not forget we r only nuclear power nation in islam. we have freedom to do everything in this country that is why you are expressing bad words for pakistan. pakistan main aurat ke respect nahi to ye btao dunya ka konsa country ha jis main ap aurton ko respect milti hai siwaye pakistan ke??main apko us country ki history with proof ke btaon ga unlogon ne aurton ke sath kya kya kia,angraiz ka kha ker uska namak halal na karain apne ap ko banain.And nabi pak and shahba ne car nahin chalyi,plane main safar nahin kia net use nahin kia movie nahin dekhi tv nahin khareda,date ko nahin gaye magar ap to ye sab karti ho so it is my humble request leave all of these things for yourself today.can you do it?
saaim00
from Pakistan
joined 3 yrs ago
20
16 Feb 2011

jalne wale hamesha jalte rahe gay.hum log sub kerte hain partiyon me cenima me clube me her us jaga jate hain jahan ayashi ho lekin jab MELAD SHAREEF ki bari ati hain tu ye biddat ha ye ha wo ha jis ne hame bataya ke Allah kon ha islam bataya usi ka dunya me ane ka din bhool jaen shame on yahan MELAD huta ha wahan Allah k khas rehmat huti ha before Lahoer me Melad shareef hua tha wahan rat ko asman per Muhammad SAW ka naam likha hua nazer aya or ye khaber her news chenal per ai thi.
usman_u82@yahoo.com
from Unknown
joined 4 yrs ago
21
16 Feb 2011

Jis pyar e nabi ki waga se hum aaj hum apney aap ko muslim kate hai. or Allah ke nazdeek humare pyare nabi ki waga se pasandida religion Islam bana. To jis nabi ke hum gonnha garu par itne asan ho. or Allah ke nabi ne sabse pyare nabi ho or nabi co nabi ka sardar khay to ye sab dil ka mamla he hum na cheez un ke pyar me or muhabbat me kuch kare ne ko bitdat ka nam de. to Allah on logo ko hidiat de or magfirat farmay AMEEN.

Eid Milad Nabi to kya chun firqa par ast loge jo nabi ko aqri nabi be nahi man te or up ne app co muslim kete he or dusro attras kare te he or up ni aqrat se bekabar or up na mahdood islami knowlage ki bena par dusro ko gunnah ki tarqueeb de te he Satan ki traah. Dus ro ke dillo me gallat waswase dalte he Islam mohaabat or peace ka pegam deta he ki si ko upp ne galat rye musalat kare ne ki ijasad nahi de ta. Har Sache Muslim ko pyare nabi se or on ki milad manane wallo ko en shar pasando se mafoos raque or Islam ka bolbala rake AMEEN.
nanipari1
from Unknown
joined 4 yrs ago
22
16 Feb 2011

hum sub ko apna nabi ki sunat apnani chaya jab koi ya kahta ha ka milad na manawo tu wo be mohabt ke waja sa kahta ha k wo kaam karo jo suhaba karram sa sabeet hain we are not supposed to add things in our religion but we are narrow minded . we dont want to learn about our religion always we have label wahabi.we need to read by ourself then you will find the truth
irumhassan
from Pakistan
joined 4 yrs ago
23
16 Feb 2011

hammadali brother......me ye kahu gi............k ay allah ager ye milad deen me itna ehem tha to tu ne q hamayn is kay baaray may wazeh ehkamat na diay,akhri rasool PBUH NE Q ISKI EHMIAT K BAARAY ME KUCH NA BATAYA,UN K SAHABA Q BHOOLAY RAHAY.............q iski ehmiat k baaray me 1 bhi sahi hadees nai.....................
paree
from United States
joined 4 yrs ago
24
16 Feb 2011

1) Namaz, Zakat and good manners are more important than celebrating Eid-e-Milad un nabi.

2) Adopting Sunah'e Rasool is more important than celebrating Eid-e-Milad un nabi.

3) Taking care of your neighbours such a way our beloved prophet did is more important than celebrating Eid-e-Milad un nabi.

4) Saying truth and not misbehave with your parents/sibling are more important than celebrating Eid-e-Milad un nabi.

5) Staying away from evil deeds (usury/interest, nudity , nude flims/dramas ..etc) is more important than celebrating Eid-e-Milad un nabi.

" And (remember) when We took a covenant from the Children of Israel, (saying): Worship none but Allâh (Alone) and be dutiful and good to parents, and to kindred, and to orphans and Al-Masâkîn [] (the poor), and speak good to people [i.e. enjoin righteousness and forbid evil, and say the truth about Muhammad Peace be upon him ], and perform As-Salât (Iqâmat-as-Salât), and give Zakât. Then you slid back, except a few of you, while you are backsliders. (Al Quran 2-83).
Truth2011
from United States
joined 3 yrs ago
25
17 Feb 2011

@ hammadali

agar ap ne tv dekha ho 12th rabi ul awal ko to yeh bhi dekha hoga k is baar cake bhi kata hai aur jahan tak baat rasoll (s.a.w) se mohabbat ki hai to is ka koi din fix nahin hai aur shayad ap ko pata ho k Allah ko woh ibadta ziyada pasand hai jo chup ker dikhae bager ki jae is k liye juloos nikalna zaroori nahin.

@ syeda

rone mein aur khud ko pitne mein farq hai kamal ki baat hai ap ko nahin pata k islam mein 3 din se ziyada ka sog nahin hai aur jahan tak baat rone ki hai to zahir hai apno ki yaad ko bhulaya nahin jasakta woh her mouqe per yaad aatein hain magar is ka yeh matlab nahin k khud ko aziyat di jae aur agar kuch karna bhi hai to ghar per reh kar bhi kiya jaskta hai juloos ki zaroorat nahin.kya ap ko pata hai shaheedon ka sradar kise kaha jata hai if u know so answer.
runa
from Pakistan
joined 4 yrs ago
26
17 Feb 2011

paree u r right biddat hamesha neki kay roop main aati hai isi liye ham usay bhot batti naiki samjah kar kar reh hotay hain agar eid milad un nabi aisi mananay ka hota to quran main or hadees main jahan zindagi ghushi mot gham her cheeze kay asool wazah tor per byan hain wahan iska bhi hukum hota or sahaba apni zindagi main zaroor manatay jinoh nay din kay liye zindagi di qurbani di wo kia ye nahi manatay yaar sunnoton per amal karo Allah hamay bhi amal karnay ki tofeeq de agar waqai milad din main hai to hamay bhi tofeeq de or agar biddat hai to hamay bhot door rakhay ameen
samsam
from Canada
joined 3 yrs ago
27
17 Feb 2011

Would you guys plzzzzzzz STOP this discussion? For GOD'S SAKE, leave everyone alone!!!
================ P*E*A*C*E ===============
Zeus
from Brazil
joined 4 yrs ago
28
18 Feb 2011

At syeda please correct correct yourself yousuf,he is a lost child and hazart yaqoob is a messenger, he sure know about his other sons this happen is guidance for us to as sin of Adam is guide for us..still now a days
aisha
from Unknown
joined 6 yrs ago
29
18 Feb 2011

Parents off lost child become more depress and have weak mental health vs to dead child parents
Now if you like to continue run a peetna then start from shahadat of hazard usman ghani,jingo huzoor nai apni 2 betty deen,jinni hifazat Kay lia hazard Ali nay apnay2 betty bhiji( nawasay rasool).wohi Jin Kay lay aap gham karti hai.us zulm Kay lia roeen kih hazart unman ki hafizatkartay hoi bib naila ki fingers cut kar quern Kay auraq per grin.quran ki bihurmati per rooen
And hazart musa is prophet we have to believe on all prophets to complete our deen.and we have to be happy and thankful of God,and fast.raha imam hasan hussain ki shahadat. Khuda ki amanat thi lapis ladle and our prophet already know about it when they were children
So he did not start sooting as todays
aisha
from Unknown
joined 6 yrs ago
30
18 Feb 2011

@ brother saaim00 aim not saying bad to Pakistan .dil jalta hai jab apni qoom. Ko dikhti hoon.you are right we are good in nuclear power we are good in supporting Muslim country.but our public is putting all this effort down the drain.do not compare yourself with other nations aur angrease,if they are all falling in jahanum,so we will say oh we are in lower jahnum we are better.we as a Pakistani should be good muslimand role model period.no such thing practicing and non practicing Muslim .we are less zalim then others.instead of comparing changeeze khan and hitler,we have to compare ourself with good nationsour guide prophet and sahaba and follow their path of life.
Yes I can proudly say my family can survive without t.v and movie.Internet and car in necessary of life as education and we do not pay or take intreats( iknow this will be next question) if there is a will there Is a way in Islam.that is kill your nafs
aisha
from Unknown
joined 6 yrs ago
31
18 Feb 2011

For those who are against milad enjoy the birth and shucker to allah who sent a messenger for guidance who will do shaft on qiyamat. Kisi Choti si nokri jassei achi cheese kay miljajani per kiya khoshian hoti hain. To yeh to zindagi Bhar ki khushi hai,our prophet ni to koi bauda karaoke azab bhi nazil nahi kiya so let people thankful in their way.aur rehgai nat aur Salam .Islam aisle ashar ko mana nahi kartaaur our rasool time therer were poets. ( look saniyatul wadaai)

Beshak we must have stop to valentine it is totally against the Islamic thoughts and law.Islam do not allow any relation without ........as church allow to ........marriage is part of sunnah quern bhi yeh kahata hai, so why the valentine why hallowen,we all die and why we do not make strong believer children so they can face to allah too
aisha
from Unknown
joined 6 yrs ago
32
18 Feb 2011

hi admin y r u not posting my comment???????? if it is religious discrimination....................???
syeda
from Pakistan
joined 5 yrs ago
33
18 Feb 2011

@ aisha men runa ko jawab de chuke hon peetne ke reason ka, if admin post it so i dont want to comment again
so Hazrat yaqoob agar nabi ho ker yeah jante the khai un ka betay ko mara nahe gaya (bcoz un ke bhaeyon ne to yehe kaha th ana a ker khai unhe barhia kha gaya hai)to woh yaqeenan yeah bhe jante ho gaye khai he will be a King phir unhe to khush hona chahe tha, phir woh kuon rote rahe???????
leken men phele bhe kah chuke hon khai leave this discussion, ap se ap key amal key bare men pocha jaye ga hum se hamare amal key mutabiq so dosron ke fikar men ghulne ke bajaye apne amal per nazar rakhen, haday wase beh ALLAH ke taraf se hote hai woh jis ko jahta hai nawazta hai
syeda
from Pakistan
joined 5 yrs ago
34
18 Feb 2011

@ runa: men ney hazrat awais qarni key waqai ka zikar keya tha jhino ney apne dant shahed kar leye the Hazoor Pak ke qazwa men shahadat ka sun ker aur Nabi ney unhe bidatte nahe qarar deya tha , agar ap ko feel ho raha hai khai ap apne ap ko jan ker peet rahe takleef de rahe hai ya ap dekhawe ke leye kar rahe hain sab kuch to na karen leken its all about aqeedat so plz leave this discusion , sab ney apne apne qabar men jana hai koe bhojh uthane wale zaat kise dosre ka bhojh nahe uthaye ge, dosron pe objection kerne ke bajaye apne apne zaton pe tuwajh karne chahe humme
syeda
from Pakistan
joined 5 yrs ago
35
18 Feb 2011

Hey zeus Internet is not luxury,need of life,you cannot pass in school if you do not have computer,homework essay karogi.
And people like syeda she need knowledge she did not have believe as pheghamber he know it why she asked why father was not happy when he know he will be king.
@ syed hazarat yaqoob also know that his son will be pheghamber,in short if you know yaqoob allaisalam stop his son (yousuf)not to say his dreams to his brother or any one.unka Rona marni kanahi tha bibi syeda,jbetay say judai aur dori ka Rona tha jis per Allah nay un ko saber Kay liya kaha. Tha,
@ Zeus when it is matter of religion you have to stand for it,where ever you are be a good muslim
aisha
from Unknown
joined 6 yrs ago
36
18 Feb 2011

@ aisha: aik baat aur agar hazrat Usman key bare men Hazoor ke yeah ahadees hoten to yaqenan hum un ka bhe soog zaror manate:

Hussain mujh se hai aur men Hussain se hon,
Jis ne unhe takllef pohnchahe us ney mujhe takleef pohncahe and many more...........

tausab men itna maat bhar jayen khai ap khudh apne haton apne amal kharab kar den so think twice before u speak and do some study of otherz fiqa also iss se insan key zehan ko wusaat milte hai islam men kahen tangnazre nahe hai
syeda
from Pakistan
joined 5 yrs ago
37
18 Feb 2011

bibi aisha men bhe to yehe kah rahe hon khai He being the messnger knows everything about his Child then unhe rone ke kuon zarorat pare????????? woh to ALLAH ke maslehaton ko samjhate the aur qor se parho ALLAH ne farmaya beshak AYUB sabar karne walon men se tha, and plz give some rfernec from quran khai sog sirf teen dino ka hota hai???
syeda
from Pakistan
joined 5 yrs ago
38
18 Feb 2011

Hahaha what is the definationof bidat ,reham kahoapnay ooper,computer per tu aak kal deen Islam and taleem ul quern bhi hoti hai,apnay apnay use karnay ki Ba'ath hai.
And jang khandaq Jo anhazrat Kay zamanay main hoi at that time Iranian army fight by digging khandaq ( Iranian was zertisht at that time) lahol kiss gaoon say ho .use computer to update your self.
aisha
from Unknown
joined 6 yrs ago
39
19 Feb 2011

@syeda iagree what you say on those words, per under to yazeed nayzulm kardia,deer haqeeqat unsay apnay opera zulm Kia.now we have to move on.now we come to the prophet saying about hazrat usman.
One time hazard Abu baker and hazart umer,radiullah ano Anhazrat ki sath koin ki dewar per betty thi.,kih hazoor nayapnay panchi ( pull down the knee) both sahaba inquired about the reason of this action,he said hazard unman is coming and......hazrat usman sharam(cover himself) that why he did,but you ever watch Muharram jaloos people has no shirt on.they are following what part is in their favour.
And clearly anhazrat stoped those ladies and show his anger to. Them who do noha Bain( cry with name)and petna sir per marna etc.
3 days soog refer sahib bukhari part 3 narrated by hazrat Aisha and for death od husband 4 m 10 days according to Islamic calendar.
And we are neglecting that part we are temporarily in this world hum sub khuda Kay bandi hain or waheen lot kar Jana hai.Jo a manat khuda ki hai usnay laylay.if you love those passed away read quran and pray for them.that will be a good gift for them.
aisha
from Unknown
joined 6 yrs ago
40
19 Feb 2011

Dear Aisha u r right we all are god's creatures and one day all of us gona die so true but when u talk about Muharram and its practice U totally forgot that, ITS ZIBHA AZEEM AND THOSE KINDAA THINGS LAST FOREVER u just not getting the essence of it thats why ur thinking like this okay ..........
kulfi
from United States
joined 5 yrs ago
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19 Feb 2011

and one more thing the zaat of HOLY PROPHET(s.a.w) AND HIS FAMILY IS ABOVE FROM EVERY SINGLE THING.... WHAT IS A AUTHORITY OF KHAKI PEOPLE LIKE US TO PRAY FOR THEM WE NEED A NAZAR KARAM FROM THEM OKAY THEY DONT NEED ANY THING FROM US ...................... I DONT KNOW WHAT KINDAA SCHOOL U GO OR WHAT DO U READ .......MAY GOD GIVES U SOME KNOWLEDGE, AMEN.
kulfi
from United States
joined 5 yrs ago
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19 Feb 2011

hey people...do watch this one as well:
durrani
from Canada
joined 5 yrs ago
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19 Feb 2011

We have to agree all prophets sahaba karam and others is all...........but they need all this what the benefit of it.if we are showing the great loss it has the whole year to feel sorrow. This is the month we have to fast roza of 9 and 10.I repeat this roza is for thank ness of God to save moss a alissalam.
And our beloved prophet and messenger kept it too.also he said do not keep one roza as yahood did it.we all have to follow path and practice what our last beloved prophet did it in his life.it will be better if we leave some space for others .otherwise people like Zeus keep saying for every thing bidat like a broken record.some one improve his vocabulary
aisha
from Unknown
joined 6 yrs ago
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19 Feb 2011

DOES ANY OF YOU HAVE ANY IDEA THAT ANYTHING YOU SAY HERE OR ANYWHERE COULD BE A REASON OF "PAKAR "FOR YOU PEOPLE?
YOU MAY THINK THAT WHAT YOU SAY IS RIGHT BUT IT MIGHT NOT BE SO PLEASE LEAVE SUCH DISCUSSIONS TO ALIMS AND SEEK THEIR OPENION.
I dont know about the whole discussion but anything other than eids that is celeberated as a must very year relgiously is wrong
the muharram jaloos and pitna is wrong and it only happens in pakistan and india even iran doenst have this occassion,pray for the shuhdaye karbala dont make tazyas etc as a copy of shuhdas horse etc.thats not good.
fairy77 [moderator]
from Unknown
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19 Feb 2011

Aisha is tottaly right about Moharram,app ghum zaroor rakhien, dua karien, nazar niaz dien, roza rakhien magar jo kuch jaloos mien hota hey keh hazrat Hussain (A.S) ka ghorey ka detto laya jata hey loog us ko hath laga laga kar najaney kya kya kartey hien, peettey hien,can you believe there are ppl who get paid for beating themselves ,then other things and what not please think responsbly.
fairy77 [moderator]
from Unknown
joined 5 yrs ago
46
19 Feb 2011

durrani ne bohat acha youtube dia hy.aik jaizay ke muttabiq dunia mein seb seziada shirk mazar aur biddat pakistan mein hey.yeh jaloos sub molvi hazraat ne khanay ke liay shuru kiyein hein.
Samira
from Canada
joined 5 yrs ago
47
19 Feb 2011

@ syeda

ap ne mere is sawal ka jawab nahin diya k shaheedon k sardar kon se sahabi the?shayad ap ko pata nahin aur pehli bar suna hai k aqeedat mein khud ko pita bhi jata hai.aur rona bhi sirf ansoo baha kar hai agar rote huwe ben kiya jaye to woh bhi galat hai aur jahan tak baat Imam Hussain (r.a) ki shahadat ki hai to is baat se koi inkar nahin kar raha k un ki shahdat Azeem thi.
runa
from Pakistan
joined 4 yrs ago
48
19 Feb 2011

@runa: janabe Hamza jin ka kaleeja yazeed ke dadi ne chapaya tha, Imam Hussain ke shahadat isse silsila ke aik kari bhe hai
jahan tak muharram key jaloos ka taluk hai to yeah bahas karna bilkul lahasil hai kia sahe hai kia galat atleast un logon ka hissab ap se nahe leya jaye ga iss leye u better keep an eyes on your amals agar koe qammez utar raha hai yaha pehan raha hai ya jo usse dekh raha hai woh sab apne amal key khudh zimadar hain
syeda
from Pakistan
joined 5 yrs ago
49
19 Feb 2011

admin mera comment he post nahe kar rahe so ther r also biased
syeda
from Pakistan
joined 5 yrs ago
50
19 Feb 2011

@runa: janabe Hamza jin ka kaleeja yazeed ke dade ney chabaya tha aur Imam Hussain ke shahadet isse silsaile ke aik kari bhe hai
aur jahan tak muharam key jaloos aur ziarat ka talaq hai to un ke amal ke pochkach atleast ap logon se nahe ho gee so u better keep eyes on your amal kon qameez utar raha hai kon usse dekh raha hai kon cry kar rahah hai kon peet raha hai woh sab apne qabar men ap logon ko nahe le ker jayen ga yeah un ka aur un key ALLAH ka mamla hai aise bhe AMAL ka daromodar neeton per hota hai
syeda
from Pakistan
joined 5 yrs ago
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19 Feb 2011

her koe apne jazbaat ka izhar apne tareeka se karta hai koe sirf ansoo bahata hai koe onche awaz men rota hai to plz will u give me any reference from ayat e Qurani ke rona sirf ansso bahana hai ya peetna jayez nahe hai????
quran ke ayaat hai khai Abrahim ke zoja cheekh ker chehra pette hue ayen khai iss burahapa men mere child kase ho sakta hai?????(surah zuriat aya 25-30),
syeda
from Pakistan
joined 5 yrs ago
52
19 Feb 2011

aur plz men bar bar repeat kar rahe hon khai iss behas ka koe faeda nahe hum sab ko apne apne amal ka zimadar banaya gaya hai dosron pe nuqta chinne karne ke bajaye apne ap ko dekhey aur tangnazre na pheleye
koe milad mana raha hai, koe jaloos nikal raha hai, koe hazrat usman key gam ko Imam hussain se ziada samjhta hai, yeah to ALLAH ur se key Rasool per hai khai woh kis ke amal ko ziada pasand karta hai aur kis key amal ko uss ke kuch hilayat ke bhina per zaya kar deya jaye ga
syeda
from Pakistan
joined 5 yrs ago
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19 Feb 2011

I am repeating again and again khai iss behas ko chor den
kon milad mana raha hai kon jaloos nikal raha hai kon hazrat usman ke gam ko Imam hussain key masaib aur gam se ziada samjhta hai , yeah to ALLAH per hai khai woh kis key amal ko ziada pasand karta hai aur kise amal ko uss key aqaid ke bina per zaya kar daita hai
syeda
from Pakistan
joined 5 yrs ago
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19 Feb 2011

@fairy: iran men men jaloos bhe nikalta hai iraq men bhe jaloos nikalta hai aur jo woh karte hain apne aqeedat aur muhabat key mutabiq karte hain.

aur ALLAH ne farmaya hai khai in logo key dilo per muhre lage hue hai yeah summuyun, buqmun, umyun hain so yeah kon log hain iss ka faisla ALLAH he kar sakta hai aik dosre pe ilzam tarashe chor den aur wusat nazre se sab ko accept karna sekhen kuon key masajid, bazaro aur mausom logon per yeah khudhkush hamle isse tangnazre ka nateeja hai,
syeda
from Pakistan
joined 5 yrs ago
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19 Feb 2011

jazakallah khair durrani
paree
from United States
joined 4 yrs ago
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19 Feb 2011

MUHARRAM KAA JALOOS KAAL BHEE yazeed kee ANHK KAA TEER THAA OR AJJ BHEE HAAY OR ITS GONA STAY THIS WAY FOREVER AND EVER.................................... WHEN ANY ONE COMMIT A CRIME THAT PERSON AND HIS/HER COMPANIONS ALWAYS WANT TO COVER IT AND THEY ALWAY HAVE JUSTIFICATION ABOUT IT ...................
kulfi
from United States
joined 5 yrs ago
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19 Feb 2011

EVERY ONE KNOWS THAT MUHARRAM AND THE PRACTICES BELONGS TO THIS MONTH IS A PAIN IN THE *** OF A SECT WHICH STARTS FROM W.
kulfi
from United States
joined 5 yrs ago
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19 Feb 2011

I HEARD PEOPLE SAYS THIS ABOUT THEM MUR GAYA MURDOOD ......NAA FATIHA NAA DAROOD......
kulfi
from United States
joined 5 yrs ago
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20 Feb 2011

kulfi this was very mean thing to say here,i have heard the opposite,no matter what yousay islam doesnt allow this kind of rituals thats the reason ProphetPBUH never allwed for his pictures so that ppl dont start worshipping things.what ould be the sadest thing in history of islam than death of prophet muslims dont morn that till now this way.
whatever you say tazya,karbala ki mitti par sijda,the representive horse etc is bidet and if you ask yourself beside the blind faith you know it is.
Mind you Iam not shia nor wahabi iam just a simple muslim from sunni sector i dont even know if iam deobandi etc so no need to tell me if anything is pain in my *** its just i feel this is wrong way of representing something.even if i was shia i would never like this,why doesnt shias in iran tat is 89% shaits dont do this?
fairy77 [moderator]
from Unknown
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60
20 Feb 2011

syeda bibi this what i heard from my irani friends if they do so its wrong, self inflicted pain and exhibition of brutality even towards yourself is wrong.And really if take you to the conclusion that i think shias are nonmuslims then you are wrong.
fairy77 [moderator]
from Unknown
joined 5 yrs ago
61
20 Feb 2011

@ rider; nice,i like it and it is true.

@ syeda; tumhein samjhane ka koi faida nahin i think u r shia aur jahan tak baat yazid ki dadi ki hai to woh baad mein muslim ho gai theen aur is ko karbala k waqiye se jodna is such a joke
runa
from Pakistan
joined 4 yrs ago
62
20 Feb 2011

@syeda

In my opinion Muharram should be month of happiness. why ?
Insaan ka maqsaday Hayat kia hai? obviously Jannat. hum saree umar jo namazeen perhteen hain ,achay kaam kartay hain ,apnay app ko buray kammoon say bachatay hain ......keon .....ta kay jannat mil jayay....isn't it.
Jab Hazrat imam hussain ki shadaat hoi to hameen iss per khush hona chahiyay na keon kay wo jannat main gayay ,iss say bhar kar or kia inaam hoga kisi kay liyay.........or app log matam kartay ho kis baat ka matam hai ,kuch khuda ka khoof karo or unn ki taleemat per amal karo ,yehi unn say muhabbat ka saboot hai.
rider
from Pakistan
joined 3 yrs ago
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20 Feb 2011

i like the durrani,samira and rider comments
aneesa
from Denmark
joined 5 yrs ago
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20 Feb 2011

@ Rider i think jub kufa waloun ne dohkay se HAZRAT IMAM HUSAIN ko bulaya tha or un ki koi madad nahin ki thee yeh shia log wohi nasal hai or yeh log is baat ka matam kertay hain i guess baqi Allah bahter janta hai
umeibrahim
from United States
joined 4 yrs ago
65
20 Feb 2011

@runa: tumhen bhe samjhane ko koe faeda nahe aur tumhare like karne se kia hota hai, if u have the courage to know the truth go read some books about waqaye karbala agar ALLAH ney tumhare ankhen kholne chahe to may be u will be blessd with hidayat
syeda
from Pakistan
joined 5 yrs ago
66
20 Feb 2011

ap logo se behas ka koe faeda nahe hai mujhe shia kahen ya jo marzi leken men kise aik molvi ke baat per ankhen band ker na yaqeen karte hon na amal, ap logon men se kitno ney waqaye karbala ko study kia hai? u ppl dont even know the cause of that waqai and the message and essenc of it so i am not going to discuss it any more here u better read some good books about that aur hidayat beshak ALLAH ke zaat ke taraf se he hote hai
syeda
from Pakistan
joined 5 yrs ago
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20 Feb 2011

@rider: so u beleive khai agar AP ko shahed na kia jata to nauzbillah ap ko JANAT na milte wat a joke.......... jannat banne he jin logon ke leye hai leken ap jese log un key martaba ko nahe jan sakte iss kele dilo se muhar uthne ke zarorat hote hai phele

aur hume un ke shahdat pe fakar hai hum un ke shahadt ka matam nahe karte hum un pe hone wale mazalim ka matam karte hain, hum iss six month pe bache ka matam karte hain jis ko karbala men shahed kia gaya un bibon ke chadaron ka matam karte hain jo chin le gayen , nabi nawasyon kon bazaron men phira gaya hum us ka matam karte hain
syeda
from Pakistan
joined 5 yrs ago
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20 Feb 2011

aur ap ko haq hai ap khusyan manayen muharam men humme is per koe aitraz nahe leken humme gum mananne den, ap ko koe haq nahe humm pe aitraz karne ka, agar hum khudh ko peetety hain takleef dety hain to iss keleye hum ALLAH ke samne jawabdeh hain atleast ap logon ke samne nahe so im not giving u all any more logics
syeda
from Pakistan
joined 5 yrs ago
69
20 Feb 2011

syeda madam sach baat to ye hai k hum waqai karbala k waqiye k bare mein ziyada nahin jante is k siwa k kofa walon ne Imam Hussain (r.a) ko pehle bulaya k hum ap k saath hein aur baad mein dhoka diya aur un ko un k khandan k saath shaheed kar diya aur mujhe ye samhj nahin aata k jo waqiyat ap bayan kartein hein is k gawah kon hai?kon tha jo jang k alam mein ye sub dekh raha tha aur jo ye tamasha dekh rahe the woh kufa wale the jin ki baaton pe hum aitbar nahin karte aur ap bhi usi nasal mein se hein.
runa
from Pakistan
joined 4 yrs ago
70
20 Feb 2011

ALLAH un logon ko hidayat ne jo Islam mein fitna barpa kar rahe hein aur aise logon k shar se him sub ko bachae.AMEEN
runa
from Pakistan
joined 4 yrs ago
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20 Feb 2011

@runa: mind ur language i belong to a syed family mere nasal ko kuch kahne se phele das bar soch lo, kah to men bhe buhat kuch sakte hon tumhare nasal key bare men leken humm jin ko mante hain woh humme badkalami karna nahe sikhate
syeda
from Pakistan
joined 5 yrs ago
72
20 Feb 2011

ur knowledge is very very poor men na to kise ka dars sunne se khabrate hon na he kise majlis men jane se i read the books of all good alims agar ap khudh ko haq per samjhte hain to ap ko kise ke bhe books parhne se ghabrana nahe chahe phir sahe aur galat ka faisla karna chahe aur sunne sunaye baaton ko age maat philayo aur ALLAH waqai fitna barpa karne walon ko hidayat daiy aur sab ko un key sher se bachaye (amin)
syeda
from Pakistan
joined 5 yrs ago
73
20 Feb 2011

main app sab se aik baat kehna chahti hoon
jo kuch b yahan likha gaya hy sab ki rai change hy koi kuch keh raha hy koi kuch or plz plz plz agr app logon ki knowlaged main jab tak bilkul thek baat na hou wo na karen
q k kal hi main aalim or aalam main dk rahi thi aamir bhai keh rahe thy k kuch log aesi baten kar jate hain jo ghalat hoti hain or onhe pata hi nai chalta k wo log deen k daire se kharig ho gaye hain sirf apni kahi hoi baat ki waja se.
so plz koi baat apni taraf se na karen kisi aalim e deen se pooch k phir logon ko bataen
zarwaali786 [valued contributor]
from United States
joined 4 yrs ago
74
20 Feb 2011

TAMASHA BUNN GAYA (WAQAI KARBALA) KOO TAMASHA KHANAY WALAY.......................................
kulfi
from United States
joined 5 yrs ago
75
20 Feb 2011

@runa, sab se bari gawah to khud wo bibiyan hen jin pe ye zulm ki dastaan guzri, common sense! tumhen sharam anee chahye waqia a karbala to tamasha kehti ho. kis qisam ki muslaman ho? Allah k Azaab se daro.
Zeus
from Brazil
joined 4 yrs ago
76
20 Feb 2011

runa khuda saay daroo tubba karoo iss saay pehlay kaa TAMASHA BUUN JAOO...... WHY WHY PEOPLE CANT STAND THIS MUHARRAM AND PRACTICES BELONGS TO IT ???????????? CHRISTIANS AND JEWS LOVES THE PROPHETS TOO MUCH THEY STAR CALLING THEN GOD ...BUT MUSLIMS CANT STAND THE LOVE FOR HOLY PROPHET (S.A.W) AND HIS HOLY FAMILY, SO SADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
kulfi
from United States
joined 5 yrs ago
77
20 Feb 2011

I think this discussion should be closed as it is very sensitive issue, and issue of faith come under scrutiny and some people on this thread don't have enough knowledge and say very BIG things from their mouth without knowing what might be the impact of their statement on others' faith.

I request to the admin to stop this thread and it doesn't seem appropriate to discuss the things which most of us don't have enough knowledge. This is a topic for ULEMAs - not for the people like us.
Truth2011
from United States
joined 3 yrs ago
78
20 Feb 2011

This what I have requested earlier in my comment number 27. I will Repeat it Again,

Plzzzzzzz STOP this discussion. For GOD'S SAKE, leave everyone alone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

==================== P*E*A*C*E ====================

----------------------THE END---------------------
Zeus
from Brazil
joined 4 yrs ago
79
20 Feb 2011

wo musalman he kia jis ne Rasool pak ki shan me kuch na kaha ho.
usman_u82@yahoo.com
from Unknown
joined 4 yrs ago
80
21 Feb 2011

syeda , zeus and kulfi, i think you belong to shia sector of islam, 1st of all we think you are as muslim as we are. we totally believe on waqia karbala, and i have personally read about that,(though i ddnt read it the way shias are taught that she said this and he said that)
how ever the only quesition is do we feel it was sad yes we feel it was one of the worst thing that could happen in history of islam, we do feel sad about the whole incidence and mourn it butthe way shias doit is wrong ,that what i and most people think ,using istaras (props) to represent that event is totally bidet and forbidden in islam. Self infliction of pain is not allowed in islam as well.so muslims are forbidden tatos and suicide etc.
Rest dont think sunnis dont respect Hazrat Imam hussain or all the relatives of Prophet pbuh , he was our prophet as much as yours.
App jis bhi chhez ka matam kertey hien tu islam mien kisi ki mout par awaz nikal kar rona bhi mana hey , baqi app ki marzi,sochna aur knowledge hasil kerna sab ka farz hey.
fairy77 [moderator]
from Unknown
joined 5 yrs ago
81
21 Feb 2011

Oh my..... I read all comments.......please use upper chambers. Dear syeda iread Shia books,atsomany places they so much.........even when they translate man mufasal and mujamal they write khuda sheer bhijta hai( naozbillah min zalic) I read their bukhari sharif by Shia publication gild awal writes our last prophet ahhhhhhh allow to drink camel waste as a cure for health.pl.........i wish I never read such other nonsense horrible things.
At kulfi you said criminal always cover the crime but some there are times when criminal mix themselves with innocent cry ,fuss participate in memorials to hide the crime.
Now anyone of you can explain to all readers,anhazrat salalaho allay wasalam Kay pass farishtay aik green dosra red suit likar aye( for eid) one for hazrat has an and other for huzrat hussain and he told the meanings of this suit to bibi fatma,why at that time he ordered Muslim to all this what we are doing today.
2nd question Ismaili( agh a khan)is the generation of hazrat imam has an following cast of hazrat is mail) they pray and wadu differently ,ther thoughts are different imam hussain is shaheed too but Shia says Ismaili and she a are same,your haj is completed in Karbala avoid madina.how come so much respect to grand child while ignoring the grand father who is our beloved prophet
aisha
from Unknown
joined 6 yrs ago
82
21 Feb 2011

And forget all this Jin Kay dil per mohair ho .............but at least we can unite and save Pakistan.there are sick people around us khabi masjid per hamla karkay shaheed the people as kofi people did,sometimes they blast the bomb and kill alims as they treat ahl bait.
Can we stop all hurting themselves on public places(roads)so mental people cannot observe voilenceand your theme is to feel sad what happened not to show off and have spectators.
By the fairy 77 and there should be other people who will agree with me those people who hurt themselves for any reason or cause they have like suicidal cases. Are in........ward.it is a fact no denial,do not get angry otherwise it make us 100% sure that you people need phschic help
aisha
from Unknown
joined 6 yrs ago
83
21 Feb 2011

@rider in ever know we have such good poets
aisha
from Unknown
joined 6 yrs ago
84
21 Feb 2011

sub jhootey ilzamat. ab galiyon ki kami hi rah gaee he wo bhi dedo. kafir bhi kehdo, or khuch bach giya ho to wo bhi kehdo.
keep writing your full of hatred comments. i am not coming back on this discussion again.
Zeus
from Brazil
joined 4 yrs ago
85
21 Feb 2011

I dont think shia perform hajj in karbala, whats the proof?
fairy77 [moderator]
from Unknown
joined 5 yrs ago
86
21 Feb 2011

ap logon ne tamasha ka matlab galat andaz mein liya hai aur syeda agar tum syed ho to is ka matlab ye nahin hai k tum bilkul theek ho yun to hamid kazmi sahab bhi syed hein jinhon ne hajj jaise muqaddas farize mein corruption ki. mera kehna ka matlab tha k karbala k waiqiye mein ghode ne dum hilai aur is tarah k sare waiqiyat k kia proof hai?balke tum logom ko sharam aani chahiye bibiyon k bare mein aise andaz mein bayan karte huye.
runa
from Pakistan
joined 4 yrs ago
87
21 Feb 2011

@ fairy77
shia don't perform hajj in karbala magar in k liye hajj se bada fareeza iran mein ziyarat karna hai aur ap ko nahin pata in k imam khumeni ne Mecca per hamla karwaya tha yaqeen na aye to youtube per dekh lein aur waise bhi jo log Rasool(s.a.w) k sahaba ki shaan mein gustakhi kar saktein hein woh kuch bhi ker saktein hein.
runa
from Pakistan
joined 4 yrs ago
88
21 Feb 2011

I have a lot of shia friends but all of them are against severe matam in muharram ,they also said that using knife and blades ,walking on fire balls are tottally fake things and only illeterate people do those things.

But there are many things they can't defend like Muttah (temporary marriage) is allowed in shia sect, they combine evening prayers,there are Ahadees on combining prayers but we don't have to combine all the time but shia people they combine all the time. Wadoo (ablution)before prayer ....I don't understand how they misinterpret one Ayat on wadoo in Quran and don't wash their feet and just do massah, which is not a proper wadoo .

Their are so many things they do differently and we think is wrong but Allah knows the best.
rider
from Pakistan
joined 3 yrs ago
89
21 Feb 2011

I know no body can convince others for his/her beliefs bec we brought up that way ,we kind of brain washed .......like i studied Ahmadi books ,shia books and other sects but i never accept them right and they define things their way ,and we have our own version and their is no one who can tell who is right and who is wrong.

One example:
we say Prophet pbuh in his last khutbah mention that " main tum main allah ki kitab or apni sunnaat chohray ja raha hoon,inko follow karna "
But shia books said
"main tum main allah ki kitab or Ali ko chohray ja raha hoon ,innko follow karna"

Now who gonna decide which version is right......only Allah.
rider
from Pakistan
joined 3 yrs ago
90
21 Feb 2011

let me clear one thing,i m not talking about all shias there r some shias who called tafzili shia(majority lebanes r tafzili) r very different from them they r against matam and they also don't curse sahabas and respect them they just believe that ALI(R.A) is superior then others that is why there is no dispute between shias and sunnis in lebanon.
runa
from Pakistan
joined 4 yrs ago
91
21 Feb 2011

is larai se faida humain kisi or ko huta ha.zara soche coool mind ho ker?
usman_u82@yahoo.com
from Unknown
joined 4 yrs ago
92
21 Feb 2011

ap log kehte hein k Quran se proof ker k bataein k matam aur pitna haram hai to ap log mujhe Quran se proof ker k batein k ye galat nahin hai aur is ka zikar kahin milta hai aur waise bhi mein koi aalim nahin lekin mein ne bhi har maslak ki kitaabon ka mutala kiya hai
runa
from Pakistan
joined 4 yrs ago
93
21 Feb 2011

is larai se faida humain nai kisi or ko huta ha.zara soche coool mind ho ker?
usman_u82@yahoo.com
from Unknown
joined 4 yrs ago
94
21 Feb 2011

No one is fighting,but providing a chance to think ,what reaction happened with our actions ,how an outsider see you,how third person sees you.we are educated ,we can correct( hidayat day)our prophet showed us by breaking idols in kaba sharif that there is one God.the idols cannot help.in same way we have to look quran and follow path of rasoolulah saw)if we are Muslim but if we do amendment according to your wishes,according to quran we are not allowed to pray dua maghfarat for those people.
And for other people info right word for shia is rafzi,in Pakistan and India we have rafzi .those who live in ot her countries are Shia.also Pakistani and Indian rafzi and some others too allowed to read all 5 Namaz together ( they can do their full 5 namaz in fajar zuhur asr......so on it is not necessary to read on time.they denied if you ask about this practice as qadiyani denie and say we believe prophet as last messanger
aisha
from Unknown
joined 6 yrs ago
95
21 Feb 2011

@aisha: tumhare comments to khudh he confused hain tumhare khilayat ke tarah kabhi tum kofion ko bech men la rahe ho kabhe ismayelon ko jo bateyen tum shia books key mutaliq kah rahe ho men khudh first time sun rahe hon
tum jase log he fitna phelane waley hain as example is here , baat mashriq ke ho maghrib ko tum log darmeyan men muharam ko le atey ho jase yahan eid milad e nabi ke behas men tum ney muharam ke behas ko cher deya hai jase oper comments se zahir hai
syeda
from Pakistan
joined 5 yrs ago
96
21 Feb 2011

I have a suggestion for the seek ofmy country Pakistan.give your bloods in donation( to govt hospital,donotopen your private sector) in those days to hospital inyad of blood shed of shuhada.i am so +ve every one will not appreciate you but give you company in lineup for donation.and reciver of that blood will pray and ......
aisha
from Unknown
joined 6 yrs ago
97
21 Feb 2011

@runa:agar uss ney corruption ke hai to yeah uss ka zate feyl hai r if u think i am wron yeah mera bhe zate kirdar hai nasal ko kosne wale tum kon hote ho???????

aur tum to shia ke hajj ke nazriat key bare men aise yaqen se kah rahe ho jase khudh shia ho :))))) aur agal alim nahe ho kuch proof nahe kar sakte to kofa, muharam aur shion ka pecha bhe chor do aur agar har maslik ke books ka mutalaya keya hai to tumhe pata hona chahe khai Imam hussain ke sath shaheed hone walon men kuch kofe bhe shamil they aur sahab e Rasool bhe thy jase hazart Muslin bin asad osja so hamare kia majal khai hum sahaba Rasool ke ghustahe karen
syeda
from Pakistan
joined 5 yrs ago
98
21 Feb 2011

@fairy: buhat se shia matam nahe karte , zangir nahe marte, ban nahe karte leken jo karte hain unhe bura nahe kahte dekhen hamara beleiv hai khai amal ap ke neyat pe depend larte hain jase namaz , roza agar ap ALLAH ke leye karen to sawab aur dosron ko dhikane ke leye karen to qabool nahe hote isse tarah agar ap matam kar rahe hain leken nazam nahe par rahe so there is no use of matam,
ap agar masaib e ahle Bait sun rahe hain aur ap pe giraya tare ho jaye ya ap beahtayare men khudh ko peet len jase hazrat Awais qarni ney Hazoor ke rehalt ke khabar sunn ker apne dant shaedd kar leye thy to ALLAH knows better khai Us ko ap ka yeah amal sare ibadat se behtar lage,
syeda
from Pakistan
joined 5 yrs ago
99
21 Feb 2011

anyways aisha , runa aur un jase log khudh bhe confused aur gumrah hain aur dosron ko bhe kar rahe hain so there is no use of discussion with such kind of ppl yeah wohe log hain jo kahte hain khai jo un jase nazriat nahe rakhta us ko mar daina chahe, I will not comment anymore in this topic aur men kabhe shuro bhe na karte comment karna agar aisha dosro ko gumrah na karte muharam ke 9, 10 tareekh ko khushe key din kah ker zara soche khai jis NABI ney humme hidayat ke roshni de un key Nawasi ka itna haq to banta he hai khai hum do din atleast gum kar leyn un ka jhino isalm ke khatir apna pura ghar luta deya ap beshak matam na karen , jaloos na nikalen leken khusye bhe na manayen its my request
ALLAH sab ko hidayat de (amin)
syeda
from Pakistan
joined 5 yrs ago
100
21 Feb 2011

pakistan say mullah khatam ho jaien to pher kuch roshan khayali aa sakti hay kyon kay AKHRI NABI SALLAL LAHO WA ALAY HAY WAALI WASALAM nay pehlay hi farmadiya hay kay (akhri zamanay kay mullah asman kay nechay bad tareen makhlooq houn gaye) aaj kal dikhta nai kisay kisay mullah hain koi current wallay baba, koi mullah apnay aap ko sajda lazmi karwatay hain or bhi bohat kuch, ek bat or ek dafa kisi jang kay mokka per ek kaffir jo kisi sahaba razi Allah talla unho kay hath lag gaya tu us kaffir nay foran kalma parh liya tu AnHUZUR sallal laho waalay wasalam nay kaha is shaks ko katal karna tum per haram ho gaya tu Sahaba razi Allah talla unho nay kaha YA RASOOL ALLAH is shaks nai moot kay khoof say kalma parha hay tu ALLAH KAY PIYARAY RASOOL nay farmaya "jab is nay kalma parh liya hay tu tum is ko katal na karo aab is ka mamla KHUDA kay sath hay"
tanja
from Germany
joined 4 yrs ago
101
21 Feb 2011

@aisha,if you are trying to tell them something please be gentle , harshness would only bring hurt and hatred.
syeda, i really dont know much about shia sector, but i believe that they are muslims like myself and most are bettr than us. yes if you say karbala is better than Kaba then i would say its wrong, even Hazrat Ali KAW would had said so.If a shia abuses other sahaba, then iam sure his place is in hell, if a sunni does so he will be in hell as well.
Matam kerna aur dua parhna theek hoga magar dont you thinkits dikhawa, people inflicting pain on themselves is totally forbidden sister.
woh loog laho lohaan hotey hien , yeh kahan ka islam hey,app dua zaroor parhien, dil mien dukh karien magar syeda p ko bhi pata hey hey awaz nikall kar rona mana hey.
Hazrat awais qarni ney jo kya tu woh unki izterari amal tha yani impulsive. magar itna arsa guzar janey key baad plan kar key har saal karna theek nahienhey. Jaloos zaroor nikalien alamti magar us mien props , jesy ghora,alam waghera durst nahien hey islam ney isi lye kisi bhi tasveer aur alamat sey mana kya hey.hum Allah ko mantey hien aur baghair dekhey mantey hien isi terha ghum manney key lye hmien istearoun ki zarorat nahien.yeh sab but parestoun aur non muslims key kaam hien.
fairy77 [moderator]
from Unknown
joined 5 yrs ago
102
21 Feb 2011

rahi baat khamini ki tu woh political issue tha, is sey san shai ki represetation nahien hoti.
yes i dont agree on creating a tafrqa based on they say namaz this way and not that way,wuzu aisey nahien kertey , khatey aise nahien sootey aisey nahien anamz 3 parhtey hien , is terha bohat kuch hota hey yeh batien bilkul bekar hien is sey koi sahi ya ghalat sabit nahien hota.
jahan tak mera khayal hey yeh kehna keh us
waqt key halat mien Hazrat Ali kuw aur Hazrat Omer(A>S) key dermian kya hoa tha aur koaun is qabil thha aur koun nahien tu jahan tak mujhey yaad hey Nabi (PBUH) ney hazrat OMar ko apney baad nabi kaha tha agar woh akhri nabi na hotey.Agar nahien bhi tu kya yeh batt aqal ki hey keh hum un jesi holy hastioun key dermian ka tafrqa abhi bhi jari rakhien?ho sakt hey unkey dermnian ikhtilaf ho magar hum tu un dono ki jotyoun ki khaq bhi nahien hamarey lye tu dono moatbar hien,
zar thandey dil sey sochien kya woh dono sahba karam yeh chaien gey key unki wajha sey ummat mien taferqa rahey?
Usman ney sahi kaha hey is behas sey kisey faida hoga?ummat ko aaj sey pehley unity ki khabhi itni zarorat nahien thi


Omer (as
fairy77 [moderator]
from Unknown
joined 5 yrs ago
103
21 Feb 2011

@syeda

I tottaly agree with u that agar matam na kareen to kam uss kam khusiyan bhi na manayeen.

sister ,ikhtalafay rayee rakhna har aik ka haq hai or yehi insaan ki saab si bari khobsorti hai ko har banda dosaray say mukhtalif hai , agar hum sab aik jesay hotay to insaan main or computer main kia farq reh jata.

Musalmanoo main to ikhtilaf prophet (pbuh) kay foran baad hi shrroo ho gaya tha ......we all know the big battle b/w Hazrat Aisha and Hazrat Ali , both were belong to and very close to prophet pbuh but they had differnec of opinnion and so many muslims died or shaheed at that time when there was no shia or sunny .

so agar main or app disscussion kareen to yeh koi bari baat nahi hai ,at least we are not killing each other .we all brother and sister and no one wants to proof other one less.
Inshallah rest discussion we will continue in Jannat.
rider
from Pakistan
joined 3 yrs ago
104
21 Feb 2011

guriyaa

where r u ? u posted this thread and left us here fighting and khud enjoying watching dramas. app jesay log hotay hain jo fasad berpa kar kay khud mazay laitay hain........:)
rider
from Pakistan
joined 3 yrs ago
105
21 Feb 2011

Syeda I did not mean to hurt you, but just wrotekih Muharram ka 9 aur 10 ka roza hazrat mosa ko fir on say bachjanay Kay shukranay ka hai. Aap Jin nawasoon ki batkerti hain who hum sub Kay hain,magar unki nana who is last massager from Allah that all muslimbelive us hadi umat nay khud bhi yeh roza rakha us ki buhut Bari fazeelat hai aur dosre muslimko bhi rekhnay kokaha.
Sub se phelay Allah aur us Kay rasool hai yehi kalma tayaba hai,yehi Islam hay
And neek nam bibi I read the books that's why I give the reference, of jild awal I still feel shock and jerkin my nerves meneapni eyes ki sat zulm kia(astaghfirullah) I stillsaid this.to myself.topic is jaloos so I say band every jaloos
aisha
from Unknown
joined 6 yrs ago
106
22 Feb 2011

per baat to yaha Nabi(PBUH) k milaad ki ho rhy thy..or jaloos or milad ka farq aap sab dictionary mai dekh skty hai..
or 12 rabyullawal itna aam din b nai k aysy he aam dino ki trha guzar dia jay..ap apny ghr mai naat khwani,quran pak ka hatm,or specialy kch metha paka kr hood b kahy or neighbours ko b day..mujy nai lagta k aysa krna galt hai..yaa mamnuu hai
hum ya humari famly ka koi jaloos mai sharik nai hota,,,per hum ghro mai aysa zaror krty hai k aam dino se hat kr iss sin ko ahmyat di jay
missu0000
from United Arab Emirates
joined 4 yrs ago
107
22 Feb 2011

**sin
sory din
missu0000
from United Arab Emirates
joined 4 yrs ago
108
22 Feb 2011

missu0000 u r perfect right ke is din ko bi hum aam dino me shumaar kare yehi bat tu samajhne wale samajh nae rahe.
usman_u82@yahoo.com
from Unknown
joined 4 yrs ago
109
22 Feb 2011

missoooooooo

yehi to masla hai hum pakistanion main ,har khalat kam main sab say aagay......

agar app ko 12 rabiul awal ka din manana hai to app hazoor pbuh per darood perhoo ,jo kay unko pohanchta bhi hai or app ko sawab bhi milta hai ,unkay uswa-e-hasna ka mutalah kar0 etc....

metha paka kar kha laina, naat khawani, Quran ka khatam ........"Jahil loogon ki bateen hain"

Quran hidayat kay liya hai ,ussko matlab kay sath perhna chahiyay na kay aurtoon ko jama kar kay quran khatam karwa diya or bohat khush ho gaya kay bara sawab kama lia.........
rider
from Pakistan
joined 3 yrs ago
110
22 Feb 2011

rider do you want to say that tilawatey quran has no benefits? without the matlab?aap ko andaza hey jaha quran parha jata hey wahan farishtey aa kar suntey hien aur aik aik lafz par kitna sawab hey.?
meetha paka kar kha lena nahien hota balkey sadqa kharat kar dien is sey kuch ghareeb logoun ka bhala ho jata hey is mien zarori nahien keh yeh aik din hi ho aap yeh ksis bhi din ker saktey hien magar agar aik yeh din aapko aik achey kaam par amada kar rahahey tu achi baat hey.
Naat khawani ki ahmiat tu Nabi (s.a.w) ney bhi wazeh ki hey
app apney wahabi pan mien had se guzar rahey hien.in sari batoun mien kahan shirk or bidet hey is ki wazahat karien? ye kahan koi ghalat kaam hoa hey?
mierva
from Unknown
joined 4 yrs ago
111
22 Feb 2011

once a Sahabi came to Prophet Muhammad [PBUH] and said: "O Prophet of Allah [PBUH] I have written a naat in your Shaan e Mubarak, may I recite it 4 u?"
Prophet Muhammad [PBUH] said: "yes u may."
when he was about to recite it, Prophet Muhammad [PBUH] told him to stop, he did. then Holy PRophet Muhammad [PBUH] stood up, and took his 'KAALI KAMLI' off his shoulder and laid it on the ground. then said: "sit on this and then recite it."
mierva
from Unknown
joined 4 yrs ago
112
22 Feb 2011

@rider
quran parhna or nat khwani kab se jahliayt mai shumar ho gy...toba astagfar
shame on ur comment
r matlab samj k prhny se b utna he swaab milta hai jitna aayat k sth..
jaloos mai shamil hony se behtr hai apny ghr mai apny bacho or baro k sth tylawt ki jayy..
or aap ko iss pe b objection hai then sory..
aap jesy kich kich krny walo ka koi hal nai.
missu0000
from United Arab Emirates
joined 4 yrs ago
113
22 Feb 2011

@mierva
@missu0000

I never said Quran ki tilawat bidaat or shirk hai......yar app loogon ka dimakh bhi kia likhoo or kia bayan kartay ho..........

Tilawat say kiss ko inkaar hai ,or har lafz perhnay ka sawab hai lakin humain agay barhna hai yeh bass sawab kamanay kay chakkar main bakhair samjahay parhay jao or sar per dopatta aurh kar ,agar batyan laga kar beth jao or khush ho jao kay ham nay 1 quran khatm kia 4o khatam kar liaya...........Islam ki rooh ko samjahnay ki zaroorat hai.......Quran arbic main iss liya nazil howa kay prophet pbuh arbi thay ,agar wo india pakistan main hottay to obviously urdu main nazil hota .....to dear sisters mera kehnay ka matlab hai kay hamara sara zor unn batoon per hai jo kay itni ahmiyat ki nahi hain.......jo asal maqsat hai wo to ham nay chor diya hai ,quran ko perhna,samajhna or apni zindagi main uss per amal karna.

Naat khuwani .........have u listen the recent version based on indian famous songs tunes....also some time they used poetry which is not appropirate.....so we should avoid that. jab hameen unki tareef karnay ka aik behtar tariqa maloom hai jo kay unn tuk pohanch bhi jata hai or app ko sawab bhi milta hai to bhir aisi cheez keon jo app ko shaak main daal day.
rider
from Pakistan
joined 3 yrs ago
114
22 Feb 2011

I said jahil loogon ki bateen "Quran ka khatam" not Quran ki Tilawat........they are two different things.

khatam main app log kia kartay ho ...white chadreen bhicha leen ,10 ,20 aurteen jama ho gain or shroo ho gaieen jaldi jaldi quran perhna ,agar aurteen kam ayeen to chaloo ab har aik ko do do siparay perhnay perheen gay.....uss kay baad khanay ka intizaar ,or bhir bateen kay bari barkat ho gai ,bara rohani mahool tha etc......mostly people go for eating not for tilawat........baray ihteram say quran ko bossay diya or khilaf main lapate kar rakh diya ,lakin yeh pata nahi kay andar likha kia hai.
rider
from Pakistan
joined 3 yrs ago
115
22 Feb 2011

I think these topics should be discussed with some ulama karaam, so that they can give us the right guidance. Islam is not a general knowledge subject that u discuss it among urself and thus get to a conclusion. be very careful abt these topics, if somebody sticks to ur version and u urself find out some day that u r wrong then what. Any ways its in fasion now a days to be a judje, I am better, I know it all and the rest are all mushriks and kafirs and what not. everyone is going to hell and I m the one who's special and all the heavons are for me.
Ae Allah hamein muaff ferma aur hum haqeer se insaan hein hamein apni rehmat ke saye mein rakh mere mola.
No hard feelings anyone, I m not against anyone.
lov4oneonly
from United States
joined 5 yrs ago
116
22 Feb 2011

janab yeh koi deeni masla nahi hai kay app ko ulema kay pass jana paray ,yeh to common sense ki baat hai.......itni Aqal aur knowledge to har insaan main honi chahiyay.

Hum Haqeer nahi balkay Ashraful makhlookat hain...no body said here others r wrong and kafir ,we all muslim brothers and sisters....just discussing our thoughts.....disscussion say hi dimagkh khulta hai or app main ilm hasil karnay ki gustugoo paida hoti hai........saab kamm ulema per chor deen ....Allah ko jawab ham nay deena hai ulema nay nahi.
rider
from Pakistan
joined 3 yrs ago
117
22 Feb 2011

@rider
it is a deeni masla my bro people are discussing eid milad un nabbi, reading of Quran, moharram and all that.
didnt want to answer but will say just one thing
Islam doesnt go just with "common sense", it goes with rules and regulations.theres rulebook(Quran and sunnat) u have to follow. discussion is good if its has all the facts along with proof.
I dont think u'll get my point so carry on.
and the word haqeer was in my dua as I am haqeer or even nothing infront of Him(Allah).
lov4oneonly
from United States
joined 5 yrs ago
118
22 Feb 2011

how u think i won't get ur point? i got it and i am not carring on.............

But kia karon .....koi khalat baat hazam nahi hoti issliaya dobarra likhnay beth jata hoon.
janab app disscussion kareen gee or bhir apnay point ko proof karnay kay liyay proof jama kareeen gee usskay liyay obviously Quran or Hadees ka mutalla kareen gi to ho gai na knowledge main izaffa......

Islam to deenay fitrat hai or bohat asaan mazhab hai shart sirf yeh hai kay thori si kosish kar leen or quran ko samjh leen.
rider
from Pakistan
joined 3 yrs ago
119
21 Mar 2011

durrani ne bohat acha youtube dia hy.aik jaizay ke muttabiq dunia mein seb seziada shirk mazar aur biddat pakistan mein hey.yeh jaloos sub molvi hazraat ne khanay ke liay shuru kiyein hein.
Samira
from Canada
joined 5 yrs ago
120
24 Jan 2012

AIK SAHBI NAY AP SAWW SAY PUCHA YA RASOL SAWW KAYA HAM SAY B ZAYADA AP SAY MUHABAT KARNY WALA HOU GAY K HAM NAY TO APKO DAYKHA B HAR WAQT AP K SATH REHTYH AIN
TO MERY AQA HAZRAT MUHAMAD SAWWW NAY BUHT HE PAYARA JAWAB DIA
K TU LOGOU SAY B ZAYDA MUJH SAY PAYAR KARNY WALY MERI UMAT HOO GE
JIS NAY NA TO MUJHY DAYKHA HO GA MAGER PHER B EO MUJH PER IMAN RAKHY GAY MERI SUNT MUBARIK PER CHALYN JAB AP MAIN SAY KOE PEDA HOTA H TO AP K GAHR WAKY APKI BIRTHDAY SELE BRATE KARTY HAIN TO HAM Q NA APNY AQA KA MILAD MANYN AQA KA MILAD MANANA KOE GUNAH NAHE H
syedfaisal
from Pakistan
joined 2 yrs ago
121
24 Jan 2012

Bhai Syed Faisal,

No one saying its 'gunah' to celebrate eid-e-milad-un-nabi but the question here what else better you can do beside doing this !!! On the day of judgement, Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) would be much happier if you follow the commandments of Allah (swt) mentioned in quran and keep yourself in the path the prophet(pbuh) himself went on than just celebrating his birthday for a day only !!!

Can we encourage the muslim community to leave 'Ribah' (interest), buying cars, houses on interest even the muslim nation like pakistan, almost 90% of the banks in pakistan does the business on 'ribah' even knowing the fact that taking interest is like 'war with Allah (Swt)' according to quran (2:278).

Can we encourage TV channnels to present what is 'decent' or appropriate - no matter how's their business go?

Can we encourage people to give only 2.5 zakat at least (from the one survey more than 80% don't give any zakat at all), and earn their income only by the means of halal way.

Can we say the people who are engaged in TV, fun and all sorts of entertainment the hadith...where our beloved prophet (pbuh) says if you imagine the day of judgment then you will forget laughing...
musalmaan
from United States
joined 2 yrs ago
122
24 Jan 2012

@syedfaisal

you have your answer in your own comments. "LOGOU SAY B ZAYDA MUJH SAY PAYAR KARNY WALY MERI UMAT HOO GE JIS NAY NA TO MUJHY DAYKHA HO GA MAGER PHER B EO MUJH PER IMAN RAKHY GAY MERI SUNT MUBARIK PER CHALYN".

Kya aap ko koi hadees milti hay jahan Hazoor Pak Hazrat Muhammad SAW ne apni zindagi main kabhi birthday manayi, ya sahabis RA ke daur main koi jaloos nikla ya is tarah milad manaya jaisa aaj kal manaya jata hai.

To agar aap Hazoor Pak SAW ki sunnat per hi nahi chal rahe to kaisey keh sakte hain app un se mohabbat karte hain.

Zara soochiye.
youboy
from United Arab Emirates
joined 3 yrs ago
123
25 Jan 2013

Asslam o alykum
my frends bilavaja behas ki gunjaysh milad manao ya jashan per ye socho k kiya ham theek kar rahe hain apne dil se pucho ?
i think ans ay ga ghalat kar rahe hain
or nahi to quran or hadees uthao
parho then behas karna bilavaja behas ka kiya fayda
M.@.B
from Pakistan
joined 1 yr ago

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